[Kbi-webcivics] [IA - members] MyHealth Record

Timothy Holborn timothy.holborn at gmail.com
Wed Jul 18 12:57:48 AEST 2018


I would call it data dignity, noting in my opinion, the best person to fix
that is the internationally extraordinary Hon. Michael Kirby, but we'll
need to do some internal work prior to making best use of his time.

On Wed., 18 Jul. 2018, 12:40 pm Ian Mann, <ianmann897 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I fully appreciate your concerns about data privacy and control. I
> recall in Germany in before WW2 all Jews had to register, and that
> registry was used later to exterminate them.
>

I am sure the registries were full of all sorts of claims made by the
government at the time...

The temporal process, through which "verifiable claims" are evaluated is
hygienic, but also a series of features that may be considered "out of
scope".

It is not the job or public servants to fix that. It's the job of the
people to do so, in any working democracy with a functional system of
government.

One might wonder how functional ours is, if reasonable considered today.
Do public servants understand the legal rules in which their work as agent
relates?  Does it not matter, as most data is governed by international
contract law + support for foreign affairs / law enforcement workers ..

Do they believe reducing the available funding for civil society groups
will improve the results formed in their eco-chambers?

The worst thing, in my opinion, that they did to jews in WW2 was not death;
it was the requirements put upon them on the basis they sought to continue
to live and what that did you their humanity, what was required of them to
decide, agreeing upon a set of human rights was a good idea.

Even still, even today, we're defending those decisions...   Go figure.
It's a police prosecutors job to defend the actions of police, it is not
their job to uphold the law.  That's why access to lawyers is prohibitively
expensive, as to diminish the means for a judge, a court to hear about
unfairness...

Same series of beliefs are manifesting in our health system and it'll be
more expensive than the cost born by way of the failures of our legal
systems.

Imho & cheers,

Tim.

On Wed, 18 Jul 2018 at 12:36, Timothy Holborn <timothy.holborn at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > It is my opinion that the manner in which someone, or group of people,
> store your data...
> >
> > They'll be able to review your decisions, temporally, as they've been
> made in past with increasingly improved resolution.
> >
> > My view is that you, or those nominated in your last will and testament,
> should be the people who control how this 'inforg' works.  You should not
> be limited as to what you can store in it, but rather, how and what others
> see; and whether their able to rely upon it, to make decisions that affect
> you and others.
> >
> > I think this is an important decision to make.  I think currently, there
> is very little technology services (if any)to make it.
> >
> > Facebook is default.  Government seems to be making attempts to compete,
> rather than redesign.  It's a marketplace problem, We need one.  We need to
> define the rules of engagement, what "fair dealings" means, "in good
> faith", for the information age...
> >
> > Tim.
> >
> > On Wed., 18 Jul. 2018, 12:28 pm Ian Mann, <ianmann897 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes Tim a lot of beneficial things have arrived as your introductory
> >> paragraph says.
> >>
> >> I am sure some not so beneficial things are there too, but on balance
> >> I would never wish to return to the past days even if it were
> >> possible.
> >>
> >> I watched a documentary called Ghost land a while ago where they took
> >> Kalahari Bushmen to Germany. The first part of the documentary shows
> >> the Bushman current life.
> >> Then hey go to Germany and vist their first city ever.Once our own
> >> ancestors lived that way I thought.
> >>
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCfcxAbbShY
>
>
>
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